Episode 1

Reality Playbook's - Grounded in Reality - Ep 1

Welcome to a special offshoot of the Reality Playbook: Grounded in Reality. Here, my finance bestie, Vida A., and I take headlines, viral stories, and social media crash-outs and break down the verifiable facts. Our goal is to impact the world by centering reality over conflated and creative narratives that perpetuate chaos on the internet.

  1. Dak Prescott & fiance Sara Jane call it quits
  2. Dwight Howard & His Estranged Wife
  3. Lakers' Luka Dončić reveals he's separated from fiancée, in a custody battle for daughters
  4. Magic City Night Cancelled

REALITY TV

  1. RHOP Reunion Recap
  2. Summer House Updates
Transcript
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Hi, Vida.

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Hi Alana.

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Well welcome all to our special

offshoot of the Reality Playbook.

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It's called Grounded in Reality, where

we take headlines, viral stories,

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and all the social media crash outs

and like we wanna break 'em down and

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just get verified, get fact checked.

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Just kind of figure out what is really

the underlying story that is maybe

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being conflated to the nth degree.

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I don't know.

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What do you think?

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I agree.

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We, let's get down to

the verifiable facts.

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Our hope is that we can impact the world

and give more facts of the reality rather

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than confusion and creative stories.

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I feel like I'm in my therapist's

like office talking about, um.

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Catastrophe.

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Like, like the, what is it, like

the eight Cs of like, you know,

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like, I'm like, don't catastrophize,

don't think it's either or,

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you know, like we're, I'll give

you a link, people for that.

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Uh, but yeah.

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So we have a few stories from this

week that just run the gamut between

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sports, reality, TV and pop culture.

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So let's start it off, let's start off

with some hot stories about the sports.

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And it's not necessarily how

sad I am that Philadelphia lost

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four amazing players yesterday.

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It's actually about one of our rivals.

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Oh wow.

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Quarterback of Dallas Cowboys.

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That's a rival to the Eagles.

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Uh, go birds.

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Uh, Dak Prescott was actually

supposed to get married.

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To his, the woman who's his, the mother,

his two children, her name's Sarah

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Jane, and it all like hit T-M-Z-T-M-Z.

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Uh, apparently published the

email that they sent to their

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guests that to cancel the wedding.

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Apparently the wedding was supposed to

be in at Lake Como, and I'm like, dang.

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Ah, that feels bad.

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So it feels bad everyone, of course.

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So they, so the two of them, um,

they were, they did a joint bachelor

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and bachelorette party in Jamaica.

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My understanding is they came back

and I called it quits and they

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had like a blow up fight there.

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So, right.

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That's what I'm understanding.

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Right.

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And so Exactly.

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Put a pin there.

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Just put a pin right there.

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Okay.

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Um, and so then, but everybody's

like, well, what happened

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that y'all are now broken up?

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And so there's a couple

of theories running amuck.

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One of them was just,

that was about the money.

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And then Sarah Jane came out and

said, look, my family has money.

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I got my business.

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It's not about the money.

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I'd sign a prenup, whatever.

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Sure.

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A, it was reported earlier today

that it was, that the issue wasn't

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necessarily the money, but wanting to

be acknowledged more in the prenup.

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Like that they like the, the

contributions that she's made.

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However, page six came through

like it always does with some tea.

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Page six, allegedly there was an ultimatum

that was given in January about, uh, Dak,

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um, and his out here in the streets ways.

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And so allegedly there's

been some infidelity.

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She said, call it like,

we gotta cut this out.

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And something happened.

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Clearly something happened in Jamaica

to make her feel some type of way.

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Right.

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And so.

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Hearing other podcasts.

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I only have heard one other

podcast talk about the story.

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And they didn't, they thought that Dak

was like holier than thou Christian Guy

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doesn't, wouldn't step out on his girl.

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But you know, that's, that, that

doing a bachelor and bachelor party

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sets set my atten a antenna off

and I didn't wanna be that person.

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Mm-hmm.

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But when I see a joint bachelor

and bachelorette party, one

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of two things is happening.

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Hmm.

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The couple are like,

they're, they're boring.

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They know they're boring, they're

old, they are like, they don't care.

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They just, they wanna be married, but they

don't like, it doesn't, they don't care.

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They, it's whatever

they, they're whatever.

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The other reason to do a joint

bachelor and bachelor party is

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because you don't trust the other one.

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Their party.

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Right.

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So I just spoke a lot.

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I wanna, um, offer it to you just,

you know, grounding this whole thing

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and some level of just opinions,

truth, some, uh, we just wanna make

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sure that we, we, let's talk just

generally, but also about the situation.

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Um, of course, of course.

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Yeah, of course.

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So, um, yeah, questions about

the, about the guest that decided

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that they were going to sue.

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Make a few dollars, you know,

share this story with TMZ.

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Wow girl, Sarah Jane, talking

through a lot of people, honey.

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Okay.

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You know what, if that's what it is,

then you know, so long as the couple

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has agency over their messaging and, you

know, if it means that they are using

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their friends as their little birds.

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In order to get their

message across, I guess.

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Um, but goodness, I, I would

really hope that no one would

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violate the couple in such a way.

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Um, but as far as the alleged infidelity,

um, I think that there are a lot

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of things that are going on here.

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The first is the ultimatum.

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You know, just going to that, the

fact that this woman, if there was an

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ultimatum out there, that she wanted to

find a way to bring the family together.

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I, I can mend the effort, but

I do have questions about what,

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how far is too far, right?

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How much is too much?

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Most, especially when.

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You're trying to enter into a marriage

where you're not equally yolked as

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it's, and I think that we've gotten

to a point where coming in and out of

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marriage is, is a very easy thing to do.

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The way that I've seen it, just

kind of like in my day, it feels

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as if that marriage has become

the new level of going steady.

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And that sacrament of getting and

going into marriage has just been

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steady, watered down, going steady.

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Because when I was in, in high

school, I wasn't allowed to date.

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And that's a, that's a whole

different conversation about

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dating and what that teaches.

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And, and, you know, I, I

just wasn't allowed to date.

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So there's good and bad, but

some of my classmates were

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in and out of relationships.

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And I do remember one of them

who I think over the course of.

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A four year period had maybe like six

different boyfriends, and I thought, wow.

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Um, you know, tasting all

the flavors of the rainbow.

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And, and, and that's good for her.

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I think that she's a woman who

is married and you know best to

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know what it is that you want.

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Okay.

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I love that.

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I love that take right best to

know what it is that you want.

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Yes, exactly.

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And sometimes I, I like that.

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I like that take.

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Right.

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I think that's grounded in truth.

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And it's very, it's a

very positive statement.

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Right.

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I thank you.

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Thank you.

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I, and I think that we all know that

whatever it is that we do end up

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wanting it is because of a process,

process of elimination, of figuring

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out what it is that we don't want.

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And so all of that to say that that

testing ground, that dating is,

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it's supposed to be there right

when someone gets into marriage.

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I, I think that it takes the edge

off having divorce as like a back

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pocket safety net opportunity.

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And I think that it really has dulled

the senses when it comes to how serious

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marriage is and what it is because

there's always ne there's an exit.

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Is that what you're saying?

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There's always, yeah,

there's always an exit.

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And I, and I get it, sometimes

you do need the off ramp.

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Sometimes the person

does need the off ramp.

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Most, especially if it's

a dangerous situation.

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Most especially if, you know,

if it's something that is

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entirely too much to handle.

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Um, I was actually listening to

an interview with, um, you know,

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one person of faith interviewing

a woman who had gotten into a

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relationship and she prayed about it.

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She received the sign that this man that

she was trying to marry was a counterfeit.

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And that's, that was the

revelation that she received.

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Only for her to go forward with

the relationship, get married.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then come to find out that she

wasn't able to consummate the marriage.

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Ooh.

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Because there was, there was

like energy behind the guy.

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That's crazy.

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Turns out the guy had been

in indulging in incest.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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And even, yeah, even as late as the

time that they had been talking to

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each other and had gotten married.

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Oh my gosh.

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And very shocking.

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I know.

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I don't know.

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Incest was still a thing.

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I, I, I'm, I'm kind of surprised.

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It's like incest meeting.

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What's the, like cousins or like

sister, brother, mom, dad, or, yes.

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Same.

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Same mother, same father, sister, brother.

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Ugh, that's so eighties.

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Like why, or it's so, I know.

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So like forties, like

what are we doing here?

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Like, yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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That's gross.

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And it just goes to show that if

there are signs that someone is

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not giving you what it is that you

want in that relationship Yeah.

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Then you probably should

really reconsider.

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Yeah.

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And I get it.

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You know, this young woman is

trying to keep her family together.

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Right.

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I get it.

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But this is the reason why it is

really important to make sure of who

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it is that you are with and make sure

that the person that you're with is.

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The person that you want

to father your kids Yes.

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Because of what you do.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like, thoughts on that?

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I think it's interesting.

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Um, I find that on some level, the

reason why people stayed married

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for so long back in the day was

more so from an economic standpoint.

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You know, women couldn't, you know,

weren't afforded certain rights.

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And so I think that we, they

tr that the narratives are

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always like, oh, nuclear family.

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But the reality is, is like if some

of those women actually could have

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worked and could have done things,

and I kind of think that they might've

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been like, I'm not taking this

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Thomas.

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Yeah.

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You know, but I digress.

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I'm digress Thomas,

because, you know, gotta go.

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Thomas, I'm not taking this any longer.

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You take the kids to school, Thomas.

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Um, I do think that there's a level of.

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Of, I, I think it's okay to, to

forward things to change with the time.

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Sure.

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I do believe because of the education

and the access to employment and like

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money, women don't have necess that

women aren't, like, aren't, don't have

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to rely on a man for them to be able to

live in the society a hundred percent.

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So it's like now we're getting to

a place and it's our generation,

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unfortunately, that has to deal with

this dynamic between men and women and

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how men are dealing with it is one thing

and how women are dealing with this.

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Another thing, but Exactly.

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I do think that there's like

a level of I can divorce

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because I know I got, I'm cool.

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Like I'm no, I like, I'm good.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Financially.

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And so absolutely.

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If, and so I think, so I, so for,

for these two, um, the, I, I just

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believe that, so I actually thought

they'd been together for a lot longer.

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Right.

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And they were together.

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I thought they, this was like 2019

girlfriend, or girlfriend from college.

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Like, y'all just been together

for a long time and, and Right.

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Really it says that they were

first linked in September of:

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Right.

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And then they got engaged a year

later, and that was October,:

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So it was only really,

I mean, it's:

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So it's only been two and a half

years and they've got two girls.

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Yeah.

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So it's like, it feels very, it feels a,

like, I, I don't know, it just feels a

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little chaotic and I kind of, I, I don't,

and I do think that maybe the, maybe the

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woman I think she is, was the woman that

he might have broken up for her for.

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Okay.

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And that, you know what I mean?

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Maybe that's who, who I

thought she was maybe.

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Um, but I, I just, there's just

something that's a little bit off to

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me about having a joint bachelor and

bachelorette party because his, like,

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historically, the tradition is you

go with your girls, I go with my, and

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you and I go with the guys, right?

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Like, or my man goes with the guys, I go

with my girls and we have a good time.

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We know what the rules are and we come

to, we come up, we show up at on our

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wedding day and we do our thing, right?

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And so why do you feel

a need to have a joint?

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Party, I believe.

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It's just it.

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So my keeping tabs up, when I heard

that, I was like, oh, she's keeping tabs.

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Yeah, she's making sure that things

are because, and so when it came

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out I was like, see, I knew I wasn't

seeing I, because I'm telling you man.

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The podcast is like,

oh, he a holy brother.

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He okay.

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You know?

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And I was just like, I still

a football player who had two

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kids that before he got married.

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We do not live, if we lived in a

Dallas market, we might have actually

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seen him out in the streets and we

might have been like, oh, for real.

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He get married just like if we were

in DC and we know certain individuals

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that we see out in the streets and

club love, or we go to, we live in New

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York and we constantly seeing certain.

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Players in the club doing whatever,

saying that they got a a wifey at home.

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We'd be like, oh, okay.

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So we don't know much about, you

know, unless you're down there.

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I don't really think you would know much,

but, um, we all understand that football

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players are football players and he's a

multi hundred millionaire football player.

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Right?

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Right.

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So all that, to just sum it up to say,

um, I initially, when I put this down

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for us to talk about it, I thought it was

more about that controversial she wasn't

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with you and you or she could in the gym,

you know, that Rick Ross line, but she

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really kind of wasn't necessarily with him

for like, the development to get to get

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to that a hundred million dollar Right.

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A hundred million dollar.

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So, well at, at least the daughters will,

will benefit and, you know, it doesn't, it

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never hurts to have a, a well to do daddy.

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So, you know, go girls.

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For sure.

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Look, question.

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Look, as long as you take

care of them children, right?

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And y'all find love with whomever

and wherever I'm, I'm, I'm happy

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and please, but don't go, like, if

something don't feel right, I feel

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like this is the perfect example.

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Walk away girl.

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'cause yeah.

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Be right if something, yes.

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Yeah, it may.

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Right?

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So, um, so let's talk about

something not being right with

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someone who actually got married.

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Uh, there's a, um, so there's

a, a, a report out about Dwight

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Howard, um, and it's about his,

his wife, um, on the internet.

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Do you wanna talk a little bit

about the allegations, Vida?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Um, so now, um, it's been in the

news that Dwight Howard's ex.

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Um, is coming out and really she's

being dragged through the mud.

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Um, after accusing Dwight Howard

of the same hijinks that he's doing

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today with his current wife, and now

his current wife has been caught on

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video essentially sharing details

of, you know, drug use and how it has

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been tearing apart their marriage.

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And apparently child protective

services have been called in in order

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to scoop up the kids from the household.

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And so unfortunately, it is another

situation where there is a, you know,

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a couple in the sports community.

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That unfortunately is being

torn apart by some of the

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excess that exist in the field.

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Um, and so, you know, we hate to see it.

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We hate to see and hear how, you know,

someone who is trying to call out an issue

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that was happening with, you know, this

beloved athlete, how that person's cries.

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Were not heard only for these things

to resurface with someone new.

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And now, instead of, you know, maybe

getting that person help or providing

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support for Dwight Howard before he's

brought whatever demons into this new

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relationship and now it has festered

and become an issue in the marriage.

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And now the kids are, you know,

have been brought into it.

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They're, they've been taken

away from their home that.

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Honestly, like they had nothing

to do with breaking apart.

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So it's been really unfortunate to see,

and honestly, like I I, I, I hate, I

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hate to see it for, you know, for this

couple that unfortunately they've been

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sucked into this black hole of excess.

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Her, uh, it, it's sad.

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Her name is Amy Luciani.

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Uh, yes.

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I dunno if that's how you pronounce

her last name, but, you know,

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there was a, uh, basically, you

know, she was on the internet.

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She she said that she was

lying on behalf of Dwight, that

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there are kids in the house.

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Told the son to lie on her.

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Uh, and that, you know, there's

alleged drug use that was going

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on and tried to pin it on her.

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She like jiggles a Ziploc bag that was, is

full of what looks like potentially flour

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or, you know, it could be that co caina.

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So we don't know.

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So we're just gonna say flour right now.

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We're gonna say flour.

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So she was jiggling a pack and it

looked like it was full of flour,

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but she was making a, a point to

say that she was at a, at a place

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in her life where she could stop.

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She didn't, she wanted to stop lying.

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She wanted, you know, the kids not to be

used against her or to be used in telling.

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Uh, lying on behalf of their father.

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And, uh, CPS apparently had been called

a few times, and, uh, the custody

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and the, the daughter was her, one of

the daughters were taken in, one of

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the children were taken in custody.

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There's been some things about

Dwight Howard that I think has

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been really interesting that

people have really glossed over.

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Mm-hmm.

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But don't really hold him to me.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like he's still getting awarded

in the, in the NBA, right.

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Like with like Hall of Fames

or like with, you know, being

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recognized and it's, that's fine.

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Okay.

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Like, he had a, he had a good career, but.

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There's been some problematic stuff

that he's been a part of for many

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years, and it didn't just start here.

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Didn't start with Royce Reed

either, who was his, his, uh, the

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first woman that we, we really

knew publicly that he was dating.

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And I mean, that's been years ago now.

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Uh Right, right.

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It had been years He was still

living in, I think, in Orlando.

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So it's just a very interesting, um,

kind of like, like what we see and

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like, and at, at some point someone's

gonna have to put all this together

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into like one story and then we

have to start holding the person.

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That's the common denominator in

all these stories accountable.

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Sure, sure.

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Because like I said, there was some,

there was a lawsuit that happened.

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You know, where he, there was

alleged sa I believe there was.

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Mm-hmm.

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The kids walking in on

him having intercourse.

396

:

There were like, there was a

lot of stuff that was suss about

397

:

it, but then he started mm-hmm.

398

:

Winning all his custody

over the women who's mm-hmm.

399

:

Who are the moms.

400

:

So it just, it was, it's

just really confusing, so.

401

:

Right.

402

:

I think part of it is that we see

that he wins custody, but then on the

403

:

other side we hear these like stories

and it's, so we don't really, it's

404

:

hard to know if it's the moms or if

it's the money that allows him mm-hmm.

405

:

To, you know mm-hmm.

406

:

Out lawyer them.

407

:

Right.

408

:

And, uh, and, and it's kind of

sucks it not kind of, it, it's

409

:

not great obviously for the.

410

:

Adults, but it's, it's

even worse for the kids.

411

:

And Yeah, definitely.

412

:

We'll put, uh, let's put

a prayer in for them.

413

:

'cause that is getting on the internet.

414

:

Yeah.

415

:

Crying into a camera.

416

:

That is not how I would wanna

spend a moment of my marriage.

417

:

No, not at all.

418

:

And, and to feel as if she's in such

a, in such a dark place that she

419

:

can't even go to his family because

like family is supposed to be the

420

:

accountability buddy for a marriage.

421

:

Mm.

422

:

Like good people around the

marriage are supposed to be there.

423

:

Yeah.

424

:

I mean, ideally.

425

:

Yeah.

426

:

And so there are a few

things that are happening.

427

:

I think that with social media,

you know, secrets have become

428

:

free for consumption and.

429

:

She shared this because she wanted

to call attention in one way or form,

430

:

but it is sad that she doesn't feel

that there's any place that she can

431

:

go to in order to be heard about

what's going on in the relationship.

432

:

And she hit this like

moment of psychosis, right.

433

:

Um, making this public statement.

434

:

So it's tough and I agree with you.

435

:

Yeah, wild.

436

:

I agree with you.

437

:

He filed the, he filed

for divorce yesterday.

438

:

He beat her to it, so Wow.

439

:

We shall see how this all plays out.

440

:

Oh yeah, definitely.

441

:

Yeah.

442

:

So last but not least, magic

City Night got canceled.

443

:

I wanted, so a little background.

444

:

There are a couple NBA players, one of

which Lou ett, he plays for the Spurs.

445

:

He wrote a letter, an open letter,

you know, saying that he thought

446

:

it was inappropriate for, uh, the

Hawks to host a Magic City Night.

447

:

Magic City is a well-known

establishment in Atlanta that offers

448

:

food and beverage along with adult

entertainment, and he basically said,

449

:

how could the MBA be supportive of

kind of glorifying, you know, this

450

:

place or what it does, you know?

451

:

Mm-hmm.

452

:

Oh yeah.

453

:

Status now.

454

:

Mm-hmm.

455

:

Where, uh, I, I think a lot of people

actually agreed with him when it comes

456

:

to more so the adult entertainment

industry and like what we need to

457

:

be careful about when we mm-hmm.

458

:

Are bringing that in.

459

:

Mm-hmm.

460

:

But a lot of other people, and I'd love

to get your, your thoughts on this 'cause

461

:

I, I also heard Al Horford of the Warriors

used to be on the Celtics, also spoke out.

462

:

I don't know what he said.

463

:

Right.

464

:

But, uh, but, but this has

been a night in Atlanta.

465

:

That's that Magic City Night

is, it was more so about the

466

:

restaurant, more so about the brand.

467

:

Sure.

468

:

Not necessarily about promoting, you

know, the adult entertainment part of it.

469

:

Uh, so I'm curious, you're from Atlanta.

470

:

Tell me about it.

471

:

Yeah.

472

:

Of gimme some, gimme some background.

473

:

'cause I feel like people don't really

under, like, know the extent maybe of the

474

:

relationship of course with the city of,

is this the first time the Hawks have,

475

:

have done, has done, have done this?

476

:

Or do have they had this

partnership with them before?

477

:

You know, I, from, from my

understanding, this is a, this is

478

:

like a, a like a one time thing.

479

:

It, it hasn't been done before.

480

:

It has been a way of kind

of like commemorating this

481

:

Hawks versus Orlando magic.

482

:

Okay.

483

:

Yeah.

484

:

Game, um, that is supposed to take

place on the 16th and Magic City.

485

:

I mean, when I first heard it,

I thought, this is interesting.

486

:

Magic City, like it worked out, right.

487

:

That they were able to do

this Magic City Monday night.

488

:

I mean, like, even just like

the, you know, just like the

489

:

play on words and all of that.

490

:

It, it seemed, it seemed inconsequential.

491

:

Right?

492

:

The thing is that Magic City

is, I'm sorry for the harshness,

493

:

but it's a strip club, right?

494

:

It is a Wellknown strip club.

495

:

Yep.

496

:

In Atlanta.

497

:

And you do have, you do have like

the basketball players that come

498

:

through, the athletes that come

through, and apparently some of them

499

:

are coming with ones because they are

going to the strip clubs in Atlanta.

500

:

And so there is this segment of, of

Atlanta that is dedicated to this.

501

:

And hey, for those who enjoy it, they do.

502

:

But to bring it kind of from like the,

the shadows of the night into mainstream.

503

:

Right.

504

:

That was bold.

505

:

But to be fair though, a lot

of our favorite rap songs

506

:

were tested in the strip club.

507

:

Like they, they go, they'd be pro, they

do, they'd be in the studio in Atlanta.

508

:

They'd be like, you know what?

509

:

Is this a banger or not?

510

:

They go to the strip club, they would

put it on and if it, if it started,

511

:

if everybody was getting it, they

were like, this is gonna be it.

512

:

So some of our probably favorite our, some

of our favorite music probably debuted.

513

:

Yes.

514

:

In establishment.

515

:

Absolutely.

516

:

And, uh, there, there's tribute

to this nightlife in Atlanta.

517

:

They, it's been named in songs from

your little Wayne to, you know, others.

518

:

Drake D Drake.

519

:

Yeah.

520

:

Sammy, we all know the most famous

guy that loves to strip clubs in,

521

:

uh, in the NBA is James Harden.

522

:

Right.

523

:

Okay.

524

:

Okay.

525

:

Um, so, you know, there

are, um, power consumers.

526

:

Mm-hmm.

527

:

And so this is, this was, I think,

I can imagine that there was, you

528

:

know, there was a group of people that

thought, let's go ahead and do this.

529

:

It's a great play on words.

530

:

People are used to it in Atlanta.

531

:

Um, because it is part of the

social scene in Atlanta, but the

532

:

reality is that the NBA and sports

in general, that's for everyone.

533

:

Just like how music is for everyone.

534

:

Right?

535

:

Right, right.

536

:

You know, different

people listen to music.

537

:

People in the strip clubs, they

listen to music, but you know, young

538

:

kids are listening to music as well.

539

:

Right.

540

:

And so.

541

:

And just be clear that they didn't

mention, they didn't mention the

542

:

strip club part of Magic City.

543

:

It was focused on their chicken.

544

:

They have like, I guess they

were given a Magic City Chicken.

545

:

They had like a t-shirt that had

like the Magic City Magic Night,

546

:

magic City, magic Mike, magic Monday,

magic Orlando, whatever it was.

547

:

Yes.

548

:

Course he had a CommEd T-shirt and

then ti is, is gonna do the halftime

549

:

entertainment, which Sure, true.

550

:

Arguably he might have brought some,

maybe he would've brought some ladies.

551

:

Um, like Usher does when in his

performances he sometimes has, you know.

552

:

But to be fair, they didn't actually

promote the strip club side.

553

:

They were only really

promoting the restaurant side.

554

:

But someone asked, someone asked

a really great question and said,

555

:

well, can you bring your children

to Magic City to eat a meal?

556

:

Yeah, exactly.

557

:

I mean, let's, let's be real.

558

:

Make no mistake.

559

:

You, there are so many places where you

can go eat the fact that people are.

560

:

Are trying to kind of cover this

up by trying to wax poetic if this

561

:

is supposed to be a promotion for

the restaurant about a restaurant.

562

:

Yeah.

563

:

I mean, come on.

564

:

Right.

565

:

It's like saying Hooters,

we're going for the wings.

566

:

You know, it's like, yeah.

567

:

Their wings aren't that good.

568

:

I've been to Hooters before.

569

:

They're not that good.

570

:

It's very, it's a very weird BBWs

are, if we're gonna go chain,

571

:

I'm going Buffalo Wild Wings.

572

:

Yeah.

573

:

They seem like they actually care.

574

:

And I'm not even going all the way into

like the whole Popeye's and all that.

575

:

I'm just talking like, just

chain rest once for no wings.

576

:

We're going there.

577

:

Wings stop.

578

:

I mean, come on.

579

:

So, i'm very sorry.

580

:

Can I ask you a question

though about this, please?

581

:

Yeah.

582

:

Someone brought up,

uh, if this were white.

583

:

Playboy and then be

having like a partnership.

584

:

Do you think that it would

be treated the same way?

585

:

Or like, would it be like, nah, Playboy,

we can't be, you know, we couldn't put

586

:

like the iconic bunny ears on we, you

know, like, let's say it was like the

587

:

New York Knicks and Playboy had a, had

a night and they had the bunny ears

588

:

for the, and like the, the dancers

dressed up in like the bunny gear.

589

:

Do you feel like because, because, because

the Playboy club, they, they're, I don't

590

:

know how, if it's still open, but the

Playboy Club was a thing back in the day.

591

:

Right.

592

:

And like, like people would go, men and

women would go, drinks all that, you know?

593

:

And I, and y'all want to Hulu

and watch all the documentaries

594

:

about that, about it.

595

:

But I'm curious if, do you think that

the NBA would also restrict that New

596

:

York Knicks and Playboy, um, partnership?

597

:

I, I mean, they would have to, right?

598

:

Like they would have to, I

feel as if we would've seen.

599

:

A partnership or at least

an attempt at one before.

600

:

I agree.

601

:

It were cool.

602

:

I totally agree.

603

:

It, it, it just is not cool.

604

:

And just because we've gotten to a day and

age where sex is in our face to the point,

605

:

I totally agree with you, of exhaustion.

606

:

Mm-hmm.

607

:

Like, it doesn't change.

608

:

And, and, and quite frankly, I am, I'm

proud of the people that did take a step

609

:

back to say something about what this

magic city Monday night really does mean.

610

:

It means that we are okay with.

611

:

Sex being out of the places where it's

designated, you know, we have places,

612

:

we have bedrooms, we have private

spaces, we have zoning, we have closed.

613

:

For that reason, we have zoning.

614

:

So it's not like we're taking

the away the opportunity for

615

:

people to express themselves.

616

:

Right.

617

:

Like that's a whole

different conversation.

618

:

Now we're in the public domain.

619

:

Right.

620

:

And we should keep the public

domain acceptable and palatable

621

:

for everyone to consume.

622

:

Right, right.

623

:

I always think it's funny because

to your point, it's like sex is

624

:

always, or nudity or whatever.

625

:

It's always kind of just like

in our faces and there's been,

626

:

and I don't know if it's just.

627

:

Getting older, but it just gets to

the point where I'm just like, why?

628

:

Like why do I need to see all that?

629

:

Like, and it's g it.

630

:

Yeah.

631

:

This is how HGTV gets all their viewers.

632

:

There's people like me that're just

tired of watching reality tv, NK version,

633

:

or not sk, I'm sorry, the reality tv.

634

:

Too much version.

635

:

I go over to HGTV and they're just clean.

636

:

They're doing something I love,

which is, I love interior design.

637

:

Yes.

638

:

And the houses motivation, and

we all know that beautiful for

639

:

millennials, uh, going on like Zillow,

dreaming up about houses are porn.

640

:

So like I'm in on HGG, I'm like,

Ooh, they get to buy that house.

641

:

What I would do in that

house, you know, all of that.

642

:

Um, but I do think that there's

gotta be a place, there's a time

643

:

and a place for it, like you said.

644

:

And is there an opportunity just to

kind of maybe keep something like more.

645

:

Kid friendly.

646

:

Not everybody in that stadium

or arena likes would wanna be at

647

:

Magic City, regardless of race

or in the first place or age.

648

:

Yeah, absolutely.

649

:

Like, it's just not their thing.

650

:

So.

651

:

Absolutely.

652

:

Um, it was a cute try,

but it was a cute try.

653

:

Maybe another time.

654

:

Can you imagine wings, but, okay.

655

:

Do you wanna hop into reality tv?

656

:

Let's do it.

657

:

Okay.

658

:

Um, you know, I'd love to

talk to you about Potomac.

659

:

Okay.

660

:

Uh, because we, you know, we've had

some conversation about the reunion

661

:

and about how things unfolded with

the trip that they took as a cast.

662

:

Right.

663

:

Um, and then just some interesting

things that, that I saw.

664

:

Um, and so when it comes to, first

and foremost, because I want to

665

:

make sure that we really dive into

it because it didn't get talked

666

:

about enough during the reunion, and

that's the cast trip to Colorado.

667

:

Right.

668

:

And so when it comes to the fact that we

ended the season in such an awkward place,

669

:

literally standing at a gas station after

the ladies basically were trying to find

670

:

what the, where the location was, they

weren't able to, they gave up, they were

671

:

running too close to their flight times.

672

:

I'm sure that flights were pushed

back, delayed, what have you,

673

:

in order to, you know, get them

there, get things back on track.

674

:

Yeah, exactly.

675

:

Because it just, you know, you could,

I, I had anxiety watching the, the last

676

:

episode because I'm thinking you guys

are nowhere close to your destination.

677

:

Right.

678

:

And your flight is in that same amount

of time, in the other direction.

679

:

Right.

680

:

So it was crazy to watch.

681

:

So I, I had anxiety like I.

682

:

You know, I have a family that likes

to get to the airport on time, and so

683

:

here I am thinking I, girl, I don't even

like to get to the airport on time, but

684

:

in that, I was like, yes, I don't know

that I would get to the airport on time

685

:

because it took us two hours to get

there, or two hours and getting lost,

686

:

getting there just to hopefully turn

around and have enough gas to get home.

687

:

Yes, exactly.

688

:

Or get back to the airport, you know?

689

:

Exactly.

690

:

It, it weird.

691

:

It was just such a weird thing

and just taking it back a couple,

692

:

like, you know, basically real

Housewives of Potomac route.

693

:

They, they finished up their reunion.

694

:

They had three parts.

695

:

I, I don't, it was a, it was a, uh, an

interesting edit to the stories because

696

:

if we just reflect back really quickly.

697

:

Mm-hmm.

698

:

Giselle did not get a full package.

699

:

They did not show scenes of her and

her beefs and her activity, which.

700

:

Let, let's to some, some thoughts.

701

:

So we'll put a pen there, right?

702

:

Actually had about 5, 6, 7 storylines,

but all of them were boring, right?

703

:

They all were boring.

704

:

Like they all, there was nothing

like, come on, uh, Cherice's son.

705

:

That was weird.

706

:

Very weird.

707

:

Bringing your kind of off again

on again off again boyfriend.

708

:

Which tech?

709

:

Like on just be with him 'cause

y'all all together anyway.

710

:

Like, yeah, you guys, you

brought him on TV just to break

711

:

up with him and call him poor.

712

:

I thought that was really messed up.

713

:

And then you, you're bringing

your mom on and continue to,

714

:

to continue to tell her story.

715

:

And then you've got your sister

and her father and your sister

716

:

going to, um, getting going into

college and trying to support her.

717

:

So, I mean, there was just so many

storylines that, that, and then on top of

718

:

that, Ashley's trying to, it was a lot,

produce a bunch of stuff that's happening.

719

:

So it just, right, it

just kind of, to me, I.

720

:

I hate to say this, but I just

felt like the, the, I don't

721

:

usually watch Potomac Sure.

722

:

I watched this year 'cause it was

like, oh, something's happening here.

723

:

But it just wasn't, um, Kiana, like Kiana,

we, uh, with the, she's, she's got the

724

:

boyfriend that bought her a picture frame

and she really likes picture frames.

725

:

Yeah.

726

:

We had Jazzy show up and pick a fight

when everybody was just like, I don't

727

:

really know why you guys are fighting.

728

:

Uh, right, right.

729

:

And then I think what, who, uh,

Tia, we had to hear about her sister

730

:

and their story and then something

weird about her husband and how she

731

:

talks about him being the nanny.

732

:

It just was a weird group effort.

733

:

Dynamic.

734

:

The only thing that made sense was

asking Wendy about the charges and.

735

:

Yeah.

736

:

Asking Stacy about how she was

constantly, you know, um, the

737

:

spotlight to be quote unquote exposed.

738

:

Right.

739

:

And so just reflecting back, if you

had, if you were thinking about the next

740

:

season, who are you keeping, who are you

leaving off of the cherry blossom tree?

741

:

Mm.

742

:

You know, I, I, I think it's

a very interesting question.

743

:

I, I almost have to take my cue from what

it is that played out during this reunion.

744

:

Beta has to query.

745

:

It's a very good theory.

746

:

I, let's go.

747

:

Yes.

748

:

And, and I am very curious to

see how this plays out because

749

:

we haven't heard any news.

750

:

It's now been a couple weeks since

the last episode of the reunion.

751

:

And what it is that I saw was Giselle

not even getting time, dedicated

752

:

time to speak about her story.

753

:

To be fair, there was a moment during the

beginning, during introductions where she

754

:

did talk about what was happening and what

had happened with her father's estate Yep.

755

:

And how the father's estate was

awarded to hi her father's wife.

756

:

And that was it.

757

:

That was the, the conversation

her father's park.

758

:

There was, yeah.

759

:

Oh, there you go.

760

:

And, and, and that's,

that's, that's really it.

761

:

Um, she told on herself having

a relationship that she did

762

:

not discuss on the season.

763

:

I'm not really sure what it is that

happened, but it seems like during the

764

:

time of the reunion that there wasn't any

time or there wasn't a decision anymore.

765

:

To go forward with Giselle.

766

:

I, and I think that it is

very, it was so very clear.

767

:

First what happened was Kiana called

out that Andy's trying to close out

768

:

the reunion, wrap things up, but that

Giselle hadn't received a package.

769

:

So they hadn't spoken about Giselle and

her life and what was going on, because at

770

:

the beginning we were told that we would

circle back to Giselle and what was going

771

:

on in her life and that didn't happen.

772

:

And then Giselle looked to her

left and her right, and she said,

773

:

Hey, I didn't get a package.

774

:

And she was right.

775

:

And so when they came back, Andy's trying

to close out the reunion and wrap things

776

:

up, and he proceeds to move forward.

777

:

And Giselle was like, hold on.

778

:

I didn't get to say anything and goes

through an el, an elevator pitch.

779

:

30 seconds of what was going on, how the

girls are good, how life is good, and how

780

:

she's, but my, how's living her best life.

781

:

When Stacey and them asked you in

Yeah, what ma The mal, wherever

782

:

they went to Maldives, whatever,

the island trip that she planned Oh.

783

:

Needed Cushing over,

they asked you about it.

784

:

Your henchman came in and completely

diverted the conversation once again.

785

:

So we never, you guys don't wanna talk

about it, but now all of a sudden we are

786

:

on the reunion and now you got all this

thing to say, I dated a congressman.

787

:

I'm in a relationship, but I'm, I'm sorry.

788

:

I I jumped in.

789

:

I'm sorry, but go ahead.

790

:

No, not at all.

791

:

No, but it's true.

792

:

I, I think that I, I think that this

was the moment when Giselle realized

793

:

that playing it so coy mm-hmm.

794

:

And trying to protect

everything about her life Right.

795

:

Is not going to fly anymore.

796

:

It doesn't because it it, and

it doesn't, and now she has.

797

:

Solid proof that an OG is not safe.

798

:

No.

799

:

If she's not going to give,

if she doesn't produce Right.

800

:

We cannot produce the stories and

then not produce a life that we are

801

:

going to talk about at the reunion.

802

:

That's what's hollow about Potomac.

803

:

Yeah.

804

:

They're just hollow.

805

:

Like they want, they wanna only

expose one person or two people.

806

:

Yes.

807

:

And they don't ever wanna do, wanna open

up about what's going on in their life.

808

:

And the thing is, is like mm-hmm.

809

:

It's, to me, it's just like on Beverly

Hills with Kyle and, and even Erica,

810

:

y'all are not talking about your

stuff and you guys are the main ones.

811

:

And it's like, but y'all, y'all

don't wanna talk about nothing.

812

:

You don't wanna talk about anything

and we can't talk about it, you know?

813

:

Right.

814

:

And, and so to me, first of all, I

know that we're not talking about

815

:

Beverly Hills, but Erica is definitely

giving friend of vibes and I think

816

:

she would be great as a friend of.

817

:

Right.

818

:

I think that's where she should move.

819

:

Right.

820

:

But, and I really think that

they need to move on from Kyle.

821

:

And I know that that's like a big

no-no to say that, but like, I am so

822

:

exhausted by this, this woman, um, and

how nobody calls her out on, on her Bs.

823

:

Right.

824

:

And miss her pump.

825

:

But we can talk about

Beverly Hills next week.

826

:

But let me go back to, to Giselle.

827

:

I feel, I, I feel like she's been

on the chopping block probably

828

:

for a while, but she is right.

829

:

You know, she's the o like doji.

830

:

She, Karen went, you know, when Karen

went away and probably still needed an

831

:

anchor, and now that Karen's back, maybe

they'll give Giselle one more shot.

832

:

But even then it just,

it felt weird to me.

833

:

It felt very weird.

834

:

I've never, it also felt weird to

me that we focused so much on Karen

835

:

and Wendy talking to each other.

836

:

And I, I just feel like what they did

was they set up a storyline between

837

:

Karen and Wendy and it looked like with,

um, with Stacey coming in, it looked

838

:

like, I feel like those three are.

839

:

For sure gonna be on next season.

840

:

Yeah, I agree.

841

:

Um, I don't, I I really could,

you could literally make ki the

842

:

friend of or not on their screen.

843

:

Jazzy said she's no longer gonna,

she's not gonna be on it, period.

844

:

Thank Lord.

845

:

Um Oh, right.

846

:

You know, she's not coming back at all.

847

:

Monique, I don't mind if Monique

got a, whatever it is, a flute.

848

:

But it's just, again, I don't want, I

just don't, don't be, don't bully or

849

:

don't just like gang up on one person.

850

:

Just like, and it's like every time that

person wants to have a conversation with

851

:

one-on-one, with someone, it's like, well,

no, we should do it in front of everybody.

852

:

And it's like, yeah,

it's never gonna be it.

853

:

And so like we shouldn't just be fighting.

854

:

It should be telling a

story about your life.

855

:

Yeah.

856

:

And I feel like you get more story about.

857

:

Stacey's life.

858

:

Um, because, you know, she's

reconciling with her husband.

859

:

She's got her daughter.

860

:

Like, we get to see the house, we

get to do this, but we just don't

861

:

get enough story from Giselle at all.

862

:

As, as well as Ashley.

863

:

Kind of like Ashley uses other

people to tell for her storyline.

864

:

Yeah, exactly.

865

:

There's, you know, there was a party

at the beginning of the season and a

866

:

second party to celebrate her divorce.

867

:

Exactly.

868

:

I mean, like this second coming.

869

:

And I think that it would've been

great to see what it means and what it

870

:

looks like for her to be in a new life.

871

:

Right.

872

:

And to manage everything because

it's, it's really, it, it, it's, it's

873

:

really sad that there was that missed

opportunity to share and to be able to.

874

:

Be a voice for women who are going

through a long, protracted divorce

875

:

process and being on the other side of it.

876

:

Right.

877

:

Like there was a real, there

was real material there.

878

:

Right.

879

:

And I just think that these ladies

are, I, if they don't want to share

880

:

anymore, I think that that is okay.

881

:

Can't be on the show.

882

:

You, you just shouldn't be on the show.

883

:

Go on a podcast and talk on the podcast.

884

:

Yeah.

885

:

Or maybe even participate in, you know,

any of these offshoot shows, the traders

886

:

or what have you, in order to have that

participation and the paycheck and all of

887

:

that, you know, maybe do something else.

888

:

Tell us story.

889

:

Give us a story about your life.

890

:

Like Yeah.

891

:

Tell us a story rep, like, show us what

it's like to go through to your point and,

892

:

and I just, the, so one of the reasons

why Vida and I, Vida and I have known each

893

:

other for better part of it decade now.

894

:

Yes.

895

:

Uh, and we, we met.

896

:

On, on the job.

897

:

Uh, and we were both

in investment banking.

898

:

And so when we talk about investment

banking, we're we're black women

899

:

in finance, you know, we're, we're

the, the unicorns I guess of, of

900

:

that, of kind of the space a bit.

901

:

However, your mind is trained in a and

when you're in, in investment banking,

902

:

it's always, it's about strategy, but

it's also about the technical parts.

903

:

It's about being able to source, you

know, where did you get this number?

904

:

How can you validate?

905

:

What are your assumptions and how

do you validate those assumptions?

906

:

And so one of the things that I

wholeheartedly believe in, and hopefully

907

:

we will do, uh, carry on, is bringing

that grounded part of the reality

908

:

not, and not being ill mannered,

mean nasty or anything a hundred

909

:

percent that, because I do believe

that you can have a reality TV show.

910

:

Yeah.

911

:

That is not.

912

:

Only about women fighting with each other.

913

:

And that, I think, so really it's

hard for me to listen to some of the

914

:

podcasts that are out because they're

like, well, this was like last season.

915

:

Garl doesn't have a storyline,

or her storyline's boring.

916

:

Oh my gosh.

917

:

She's talking about

this beach house again.

918

:

She needs something else she

needs, and it's like what?

919

:

You want her just to con be

on conflict, watch every day.

920

:

Like we can have a, a reality TV show that

is about a story about someone's life.

921

:

As long as they're open, they're

sharing what they're going through.

922

:

Like Denise, absolutely.

923

:

Denise.

924

:

Right.

925

:

Denise came back on to

Beverly Hills last week.

926

:

Right.

927

:

Told her her story about what's

going on with her and Erin.

928

:

Mm-hmm.

929

:

And again, she's not fighting with

another woman on the cast about

930

:

something allegedly that she, that

that woman lied about or something.

931

:

Right.

932

:

Absolutely.

933

:

She's talking about her wife.

934

:

Absolutely.

935

:

So if you're not interesting,

if you not interesting.

936

:

Let me say it this way.

937

:

If you don't have a story to tell,

then you don't need to be on tv.

938

:

Yeah.

939

:

Stop.

940

:

Stop.

941

:

Ill stop representing.

942

:

The, the stereotype so poorly

because you don't wanna open up

943

:

your life or you don't really have

anything interesting to talk about.

944

:

Exactly.

945

:

And it's okay because you're

a regular human being.

946

:

Everybody's ordinary, right?

947

:

Yeah, of course.

948

:

Some people are just not meant

to be on TV for 15 years.

949

:

Like, yeah.

950

:

And that's okay.

951

:

I think that, you know, I really

appreciate you taking a step back to

952

:

even just talk about this, because it's

something that has been weighing on

953

:

me just thinking about the fact that

there needs to be drama on TV in order

954

:

for it to be TV that is watchable.

955

:

And, you know, we've given into it,

there's like a, like a big thing that

956

:

we're waiting for and we're waiting for

the whole season to see it because we saw

957

:

it in the trailer and, and it's supposed

to be fantastic and splashy and you know.

958

:

Warm with a mustache.

959

:

Uh, you know, it's supposed to be all

of these things, and it's, it's a lot.

960

:

I just think that we may need to hit

the reset button at a, as a society.

961

:

Like there's, there's

like, it wasn't like this.

962

:

It wasn't this bad.

963

:

Yeah, it wasn't this bad.

964

:

Like we could like enjoy a sitcom

and like Rachel Zoe, right?

965

:

Yeah.

966

:

She's back on Beverly Hills.

967

:

Everyone's loving her.

968

:

Do you know why?

969

:

She's talking about her own life

and what she's going through talking

970

:

about her life and she makes things

about herself in the middle of dinner

971

:

and people are like, I love it.

972

:

Keep going.

973

:

Be chaotic.

974

:

You know?

975

:

And she's showing us the

Hamptons, Donna, Karen comes by.

976

:

I mean this is what we wanna see.

977

:

We wanna hear exactly.

978

:

Talk about your it like things.

979

:

And of course there is going to

be conflict because you cannot be

980

:

in a group, especially a group of

women, and not have a conflict.

981

:

Okay?

982

:

Yes.

983

:

It just doesn't happen.

984

:

So that's why you don't need

to make it happen because

985

:

it's gonna naturally happen.

986

:

Yes.

987

:

And I just wish that it was,

was a little bit more organic.

988

:

Like I feel like with Salt Lake

there's like this undercurrent.

989

:

That happens with all of them and Right.

990

:

Some people don't like some other people

and they're never gonna like them,

991

:

so they hop on something immediately.

992

:

Right.

993

:

But they all are telling

the story about their life.

994

:

We still are.

995

:

They really are.

996

:

Like, they're not just using other,

they're each other for their storyline.

997

:

They're telling a freaking story.

998

:

And so I wish that, um, that that

would be something maybe the producers

999

:

of, uh, Potomac would consider,

would be trying to center it a little

:

00:50:37,145 --> 00:50:38,705

bit more on the story being told.

:

00:50:38,915 --> 00:50:43,205

Like everyone's trying to have that

Vanderpump Rules season 10 moment.

:

00:50:43,235 --> 00:50:44,194

But that was real.

:

00:50:44,194 --> 00:50:45,185

That happened.

:

00:50:45,365 --> 00:50:46,234

Absolutely.

:

00:50:46,595 --> 00:50:48,665

I don't even remember her

name, her name anymore.

:

00:50:48,725 --> 00:50:48,845

Right.

:

00:50:48,845 --> 00:50:49,415

Arianna?

:

00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:51,919

Oh, oh, Rachel, Raquel.

:

00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:53,035

Rachel, Raquel, sorry.

:

00:50:53,299 --> 00:50:57,589

Raquel and Ariana were really good

friends and now everybody was hanging

:

00:50:57,589 --> 00:51:02,899

out and then some stuff happened between

Tom and Raquel and this, that was real.

:

00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:06,229

Alan Baskin is not a good enough

producer to produce that babes.

:

00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,959

That was a real thing, and

that's what we wanna see.

:

00:51:08,959 --> 00:51:13,370

We wanna see the dynamics between

people because it's not just that

:

00:51:13,580 --> 00:51:15,529

you're on reality TV and that's it.

:

00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:18,649

It's how do you deal

with being on reality tv?

:

00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:24,319

Yeah, that's part is what I believe

is part of the au the authenticity.

:

00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:28,380

It's, it's about like,

how does Katie show up?

:

00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:31,110

'cause people didn't like her

initially, but everybody loves her.

:

00:51:31,110 --> 00:51:33,839

But I've always liked Katie,

but Katie, you know, want

:

00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,509

Banner pump wasn't necessarily

everybody's, you know, cup of tea.

:

00:51:36,509 --> 00:51:36,569

Yeah.

:

00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:39,450

But how does her being in reality TV land.

:

00:51:40,259 --> 00:51:41,700

Show up for her, you know?

:

00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:43,020

So yeah, of course.

:

00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:45,660

I think I feel like I beat that for the

Dead, you know, beat that with the bat.

:

00:51:45,749 --> 00:51:46,499

Beat the Dead Horse.

:

00:51:46,499 --> 00:51:49,859

But we can get back to

the stilettos and heels.

:

00:51:49,979 --> 00:51:50,459

You remember that?

:

00:51:50,459 --> 00:51:53,310

Show the Stilettos heels and whatever.

:

00:51:53,339 --> 00:51:53,879

I don't know.

:

00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:58,979

Pepper had, she had like a fun little

like Sex in the City esque reality TV

:

00:51:58,979 --> 00:52:01,049

show with her and her friends on own.

:

00:52:01,049 --> 00:52:02,189

I loved it.

:

00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:04,049

I think it was called

like Pep in the City.

:

00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:05,370

It was just fun.

:

00:52:05,734 --> 00:52:06,569

Like, can't we laugh?

:

00:52:06,569 --> 00:52:08,339

Can't we go on fabulous vacations?

:

00:52:08,339 --> 00:52:10,524

And then we have natural

arguments that happen.

:

00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:12,930

Yes, absolutely.

:

00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,819

Where it doesn't have to be a thing.

:

00:52:15,049 --> 00:52:19,519

I think that when we hit this

reset, because I think that we

:

00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:23,029

do need a reset when it comes to

what it is that we're consuming.

:

00:52:24,649 --> 00:52:27,799

I think that there is

space for more dramas.

:

00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:31,069

We just need more drama television.

:

00:52:31,249 --> 00:52:34,069

We need Good Game of Thrones shows, right?

:

00:52:34,339 --> 00:52:35,034

We need like.

:

00:52:36,590 --> 00:52:40,670

Shows, and maybe we make them

weekly, like how they used to be

:

00:52:40,970 --> 00:52:44,630

as opposed to giving everyone this

opportunity there is a return.

:

00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:45,634

It what we need to do.

:

00:52:45,634 --> 00:52:48,680

Feels like I'm seeing a lot

more scripted TV more than ever.

:

00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:49,790

Right?

:

00:52:49,850 --> 00:52:52,009

I don't know about you just

feel like I'm seeing it a lot

:

00:52:52,009 --> 00:52:54,020

more and I, I'm consuming it.

:

00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:57,020

Like I watch Bill Trent

don't know how I got into it.

:

00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,995

I started watching it and now I'm stuck.

:

00:52:59,735 --> 00:53:02,930

Yes, I'm stuck at it and I'm

like, well, and you know what?

:

00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:03,650

Going there.

:

00:53:04,070 --> 00:53:10,700

I rather that than people ruining their

actual, like, lives for television

:

00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:15,950

because that it has been become painful

to watch some, some of it I can't watch.

:

00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,460

Like Real Housewives of New

Jersey had to stop watching it.

:

00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,950

It just, it just was too much.

:

00:53:22,279 --> 00:53:26,330

Um, and, and too much

destruction in people's like

:

00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:27,250

real lives to not be scripted.

:

00:53:27,250 --> 00:53:31,360

And that's the oldest daughter

knows way too much about her mom

:

00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,280

and her, her brother's relationship.

:

00:53:33,954 --> 00:53:36,504

She got way too many

opinions about adults.

:

00:53:37,345 --> 00:53:37,854

Right.

:

00:53:38,184 --> 00:53:39,115

And like, you know

:

00:53:41,274 --> 00:53:42,684

what said, kids need to be kids.

:

00:53:42,744 --> 00:53:43,524

Exactly.

:

00:53:43,524 --> 00:53:44,514

Kids need to be kids.

:

00:53:44,514 --> 00:53:47,845

And I'll say, next gen

was good though, so Yeah.

:

00:53:48,684 --> 00:53:49,704

I've always gonna plug it.

:

00:53:49,854 --> 00:53:51,144

They were, it was funny.

:

00:53:51,954 --> 00:53:54,534

But, but that's the thing, the

reason why it's going to be good is

:

00:53:54,534 --> 00:54:01,555

because like, when you are navigating

a city as a child, you need like,

:

00:54:01,764 --> 00:54:03,744

there, it's going to be dramatic.

:

00:54:03,834 --> 00:54:04,194

It will.

:

00:54:04,194 --> 00:54:04,434

Right.

:

00:54:04,464 --> 00:54:08,365

You're like the girl didn't

give the guy back apart of time.

:

00:54:08,365 --> 00:54:10,374

He mad that she got his, his speakers.

:

00:54:10,374 --> 00:54:14,064

I mean, that in and of itself was

the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

:

00:54:14,064 --> 00:54:15,254

And it was hilarious.

:

00:54:15,364 --> 00:54:16,084

And it was real.

:

00:54:16,144 --> 00:54:17,614

That's what it is that people love.

:

00:54:17,734 --> 00:54:19,114

That's the magic of reality.

:

00:54:19,114 --> 00:54:20,644

TV reality.

:

00:54:20,734 --> 00:54:24,244

But speaking of reality, TV and Yes.

:

00:54:24,334 --> 00:54:25,174

All of this.

:

00:54:25,594 --> 00:54:27,034

Can we talk about Summer House?

:

00:54:27,334 --> 00:54:28,204

Can we end all Summer house?

:

00:54:28,924 --> 00:54:29,914

Yes, let's do it.

:

00:54:29,914 --> 00:54:32,974

Um, we've got some newbies on the show.

:

00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:34,594

There's a couple storylines.

:

00:54:34,594 --> 00:54:37,504

One is that this gorgeous, he is gorgeous.

:

00:54:37,504 --> 00:54:39,094

Aussie then Oh yeah.

:

00:54:39,574 --> 00:54:41,524

Uh, gorgeous race, our presence.

:

00:54:41,584 --> 00:54:44,344

And he's got all the girls, uh, flummoxed.

:

00:54:44,734 --> 00:54:50,284

And one of them is having a whole moment

and she's got this huge crush on him.

:

00:54:50,584 --> 00:54:53,494

And, but she's, she's, she's

being very much like a teenager.

:

00:54:53,494 --> 00:54:57,034

She's like, I don't know if I can

tell him and I don't know what to do.

:

00:54:57,034 --> 00:55:00,904

And then she's like, I'm gonna flirt

with them, and I don't, I can't flirt.

:

00:55:00,934 --> 00:55:01,414

Oh my gosh.

:

00:55:01,414 --> 00:55:02,314

Lindsay can flirt.

:

00:55:02,314 --> 00:55:05,914

And not every time she's, I'm like,

what is your, and so literally

:

00:55:06,604 --> 00:55:11,569

she's making these like comments,

like kind of jabs, like by herself.

:

00:55:13,594 --> 00:55:14,374

It's weird.

:

00:55:14,374 --> 00:55:14,434

Yeah.

:

00:55:14,794 --> 00:55:19,924

It was, the comments were kind of

jabbing around the fact that she likes

:

00:55:19,924 --> 00:55:21,634

Ben, but she hasn't said it to Ben.

:

00:55:21,684 --> 00:55:22,014

Mm-hmm.

:

00:55:22,074 --> 00:55:26,664

That he wants to bang the person

that they were all celebrating.

:

00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:27,369

Mm.

:

00:55:27,374 --> 00:55:27,924

Mm-hmm.

:

00:55:28,164 --> 00:55:30,289

And they just had this really nice,

there's like a really nice moment.

:

00:55:30,809 --> 00:55:34,704

Everyone's dressed up and she makes

this really off color, off, off brand

:

00:55:34,704 --> 00:55:37,374

remark and then blames him because Right.

:

00:55:37,614 --> 00:55:41,274

They all joke about it, that

she was joking about it and it

:

00:55:41,274 --> 00:55:43,104

was just such a weird interact.

:

00:55:43,104 --> 00:55:44,964

It was just such an odd thing to me.

:

00:55:44,964 --> 00:55:46,314

I, and sure.

:

00:55:46,434 --> 00:55:48,384

I like, this is what I do

like about Summer House.

:

00:55:48,384 --> 00:55:49,044

The, the Yeah.

:

00:55:49,404 --> 00:55:55,134

People in it, they are gentle when they,

like, they, they saw her, they were,

:

00:55:55,224 --> 00:55:56,934

and, and everyone kind of was observing.

:

00:55:56,964 --> 00:55:58,374

They were like, I'm

gonna be gentle with her.

:

00:55:58,659 --> 00:55:59,394

Right, right.

:

00:55:59,394 --> 00:56:00,354

If this was housewives.

:

00:56:02,829 --> 00:56:05,709

They would've been fighting

going back and forth.

:

00:56:05,709 --> 00:56:07,359

They would've been egging it on.

:

00:56:07,689 --> 00:56:12,219

But they were very nice and gentle with

her in, in that because they know, like

:

00:56:12,219 --> 00:56:14,229

people knew more than what Ben knew.

:

00:56:14,259 --> 00:56:19,709

'cause Ben didn't know, but Ben went

up to talk to Bailey about this whole,

:

00:56:19,739 --> 00:56:24,269

her, her comment, and she was very

defensive and he was just like, it

:

00:56:24,269 --> 00:56:27,479

wasn't appropriate for you to say

that in the middle of this dinner.

:

00:56:27,489 --> 00:56:28,219

That like, right.

:

00:56:28,279 --> 00:56:31,624

You just made a comment about me

being with a married woman and

:

00:56:31,624 --> 00:56:33,274

is that how I'm coming across?

:

00:56:33,304 --> 00:56:34,834

Am I coming across that way?

:

00:56:35,074 --> 00:56:38,884

So he had his own concerns and then she

just was like, I've never had a, like,

:

00:56:38,884 --> 00:56:42,034

she, she's being defensive and he's

just like, well, what's the problem?

:

00:56:42,269 --> 00:56:42,619

Right.

:

00:56:42,624 --> 00:56:42,874

Right.

:

00:56:42,874 --> 00:56:44,194

There's something more here.

:

00:56:44,254 --> 00:56:45,364

What is the problem?

:

00:56:45,364 --> 00:56:45,424

Yeah.

:

00:56:45,844 --> 00:56:47,224

Can you talk to me about that?

:

00:56:47,464 --> 00:56:50,179

I feel like I've been talking a lot,

but can you talk to me about that?

:

00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:57,064

So, I think that, you know,

there is a, a a a point where

:

00:56:57,064 --> 00:56:58,984

there's like a speed dating.

:

00:56:59,764 --> 00:57:02,314

Um, event that they, that they go out to.

:

00:57:02,854 --> 00:57:06,874

Um, and Bailey is talking about

just the insecurities that she has.

:

00:57:07,534 --> 00:57:13,144

And it was really tough to watch, you

know, this poor girl who had been through

:

00:57:13,144 --> 00:57:19,264

a very traumatic situation, getting

broken up with at Sweet Green and the

:

00:57:19,264 --> 00:57:24,634

way that her ex, who she was living

with, decided to just kind of like break

:

00:57:24,634 --> 00:57:32,524

things off, throw in the towel, throw

the keys on the table at her at Sweet

:

00:57:32,524 --> 00:57:37,984

Green with his bags packed, literally

the same day to leave on the curb.

:

00:57:38,794 --> 00:57:39,724

On the curb.

:

00:57:39,844 --> 00:57:44,464

Blue went moved to uh, la right?

:

00:57:44,464 --> 00:57:48,694

I think he got on a flight and

moved to LA like he was a savage.

:

00:57:50,104 --> 00:57:53,554

I mean, it just, I can only

imagine that it just is going

:

00:57:53,554 --> 00:57:56,014

to rock someone who may not.

:

00:57:56,884 --> 00:58:00,154

May not, maybe, or may not

be in the best place already.

:

00:58:00,664 --> 00:58:05,704

And so having a situation like that,

like that is rejection, you know,

:

00:58:06,214 --> 00:58:11,494

unrequited love, having a crush on

somebody and it not being returned,

:

00:58:11,914 --> 00:58:17,554

that is, that pales in comparison to the

situation that happened to this girl.

:

00:58:18,184 --> 00:58:23,194

And it's almost as if she has

been looking for reasons to,

:

00:58:23,704 --> 00:58:28,144

you know, stay single, stay to

herself, not put herself out there.

:

00:58:28,444 --> 00:58:33,334

And so here she is trying to

do that with this guy Ben, and

:

00:58:33,334 --> 00:58:35,974

he's gorgeous and he's nice.

:

00:58:36,934 --> 00:58:41,944

I think that what it is that she

really should be doing, the first

:

00:58:42,274 --> 00:58:43,714

is making sure that she's okay.

:

00:58:43,804 --> 00:58:44,014

Right.

:

00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:48,814

Because right when what it is

that I've heard is that if you're

:

00:58:48,814 --> 00:58:52,774

able to talk about a difficult

situation without getting emotional.

:

00:58:53,674 --> 00:58:56,464

Then that means that you have

gotten to a point where you're

:

00:58:56,464 --> 00:59:00,334

healed enough to be able to move on.

:

00:59:00,964 --> 00:59:05,374

Now, I'm not saying that you need

to be under the ground forever

:

00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:07,569

until you can't shed a tear.

:

00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:11,049

But yeah, he uh, he threw the

keys at me and it was like, okay.

:

00:59:11,139 --> 00:59:11,949

And I was like, whatever.

:

00:59:12,339 --> 00:59:12,669

What else?

:

00:59:12,669 --> 00:59:14,504

Yeah, like we don't need all that Exactly.

:

00:59:14,804 --> 00:59:18,519

But we do need a acknowledgement that

if you're still, if you're crying about

:

00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:19,959

it, then it's still impacting you.

:

00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:21,429

It's still impacting you.

:

00:59:21,429 --> 00:59:22,599

Very hurt by that.

:

00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:27,279

Very hurt and there, and it's

okay to be hurt and it's okay

:

00:59:27,279 --> 00:59:28,299

to work through the herd.

:

00:59:28,929 --> 00:59:34,719

And so, you know, the thing of

the thing is that when a person is

:

00:59:34,839 --> 00:59:37,089

not healed, they leak everywhere.

:

00:59:37,209 --> 00:59:37,449

Yes.

:

00:59:37,659 --> 00:59:39,219

And that's what's happening here.

:

00:59:39,699 --> 00:59:43,209

Here she is trying to have fun and

she's putting the car before the horse.

:

00:59:43,629 --> 00:59:46,179

Fun should happen, but fun.

:

00:59:46,179 --> 00:59:48,429

Cannot overtake healing.

:

00:59:48,849 --> 00:59:50,979

Healing should be priority number one.

:

00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:52,269

Are you okay?

:

00:59:52,269 --> 00:59:54,009

Do you feel like you're beautiful?

:

00:59:54,219 --> 00:59:55,719

This woman is gorgeous.

:

00:59:56,169 --> 00:59:56,289

She is.

:

00:59:57,279 --> 00:59:58,809

And she's like a natural beauty.

:

00:59:58,809 --> 01:00:02,409

You can tell that she, and she's funny,

but this is the but to, but this last

:

01:00:02,409 --> 01:00:08,409

episode really kind of just, yeah, I

don't like it when you're not, you are

:

01:00:08,409 --> 01:00:12,339

joking and, and again, we know, this

is what I like about Summer House.

:

01:00:12,339 --> 01:00:12,939

They're gentle.

:

01:00:13,089 --> 01:00:16,239

They're not gonna like jump it all right.

:

01:00:16,269 --> 01:00:18,429

They're not gonna ramp it up or anything.

:

01:00:18,429 --> 01:00:19,539

They're, they kind of get it.

:

01:00:20,139 --> 01:00:20,409

Yeah.

:

01:00:20,439 --> 01:00:24,669

But I, what I, what I feel like I

would've appreciated someone calling

:

01:00:24,669 --> 01:00:29,439

Curse to the carpet to be like, it wasn't

appropriate for you to make that comment.

:

01:00:30,009 --> 01:00:33,249

And just because other people

joke about it, we don't know you.

:

01:00:33,249 --> 01:00:35,829

We've only known you for

two weeks if that Yeah.

:

01:00:35,834 --> 01:00:36,074

Yeah.

:

01:00:36,074 --> 01:00:38,859

Like, I, I would appreciate someone

kind of calling her to the carpet and

:

01:00:38,859 --> 01:00:44,529

maybe it happened, but, um, it, she

went upstairs after, so they had this

:

01:00:44,529 --> 01:00:47,919

conversation where he's trying to press

her out, trying to figure out why is she.

:

01:00:48,504 --> 01:00:51,894

Making these comments at him and he's

like, what am I, what's going on?

:

01:00:51,924 --> 01:00:55,674

'cause for him, he thinks that

he's coming off inappropriate

:

01:00:56,454 --> 01:00:57,624

and he doesn't wanna do that.

:

01:00:58,254 --> 01:00:59,334

Yeah, exactly.

:

01:01:00,204 --> 01:01:05,934

And, and, and now he's, now she's leaked

into this guy given him a complex, right?

:

01:01:05,989 --> 01:01:09,709

Because like, this is the thing, like

that negative energy, it does spread.

:

01:01:09,709 --> 01:01:14,929

And it, and like I said, like operative

word leaking, you leak into other things

:

01:01:14,929 --> 01:01:16,819

and then you give other people complex.

:

01:01:16,819 --> 01:01:22,789

Like when it comes to negative energy,

negative sentiment, it does travel.

:

01:01:22,819 --> 01:01:25,030

I think that we take that for granted.

:

01:01:25,210 --> 01:01:25,299

Mm-hmm.

:

01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:30,270

Because like, as a system of people

we're all connected and we're

:

01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:32,070

not an island unto ourselves.

:

01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:32,400

Nope.

:

01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:37,130

If you are, I heard this over

these past couple of weeks that

:

01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:40,490

as far as like sharing life.

:

01:01:41,285 --> 01:01:47,195

You know, our lives, we are depositing

whatever it is that our life is like.

:

01:01:47,195 --> 01:01:51,125

We have like this world that is around

us and that we see and that we perceive

:

01:01:51,905 --> 01:01:58,295

when we are in interacting, passing by

people, the reason why we have a feeling

:

01:01:58,295 --> 01:02:02,225

about them is because we are taking

a bit of what it is that they are.

:

01:02:02,705 --> 01:02:02,885

Right.

:

01:02:02,885 --> 01:02:03,785

Putting out there.

:

01:02:04,145 --> 01:02:04,235

Right.

:

01:02:04,325 --> 01:02:08,555

So as you are passing each

other, you are overlapping.

:

01:02:08,885 --> 01:02:08,975

Mm-hmm.

:

01:02:09,215 --> 01:02:12,905

And, and taking with you whatever it

is that is in that person as well.

:

01:02:12,910 --> 01:02:13,220

Mm-hmm.

:

01:02:13,355 --> 01:02:18,775

And so I think that that's just a great

example of what it means to have that,

:

01:02:18,775 --> 01:02:23,575

that's why it's really important to

have a clear energy, clear spaces, you

:

01:02:23,575 --> 01:02:25,520

know, clean relationships and all that.

:

01:02:25,570 --> 01:02:26,920

You're causing this.

:

01:02:27,550 --> 01:02:27,670

Mm-hmm.

:

01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:32,080

And you really just, you're

just unhappy, you know?

:

01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,430

And you're in a space Yeah.

:

01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:35,350

With gorgeous other pe,

other gorgeous people.

:

01:02:35,350 --> 01:02:35,800

Right.

:

01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:35,980

Yeah.

:

01:02:36,190 --> 01:02:37,570

Looking at an opportunity.

:

01:02:37,570 --> 01:02:38,440

This is like a start.

:

01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,070

This is fresh.

:

01:02:39,070 --> 01:02:42,790

This is like an opportunity, , you're now,

I'm sure guys are in her dms, everybody's

:

01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:44,530

probably in her dms, but Yeah, of course.

:

01:02:44,530 --> 01:02:48,220

It just makes, it just, I I, I to

your point, it's when you're around

:

01:02:48,250 --> 01:02:52,030

when you could put yourself in other

people's company and you, you're

:

01:02:52,030 --> 01:02:55,900

transferring energy and there's

actually a group, this is like, um.

:

01:02:57,625 --> 01:03:01,695

There's like a group theory,

group dynamic theory where mm-hmm.

:

01:03:02,025 --> 01:03:04,725

We all transmit to each

other as we're in the group.

:

01:03:04,930 --> 01:03:05,405

And so, right.

:

01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:09,130

It's very, uh, I do, I believe in the

company that you keep, I believe in

:

01:03:09,130 --> 01:03:11,440

running what they say run with elephants.

:

01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:11,710

Right.

:

01:03:11,710 --> 01:03:14,650

Or I'm sorry, don't run with

mice, walk with elephants.

:

01:03:14,980 --> 01:03:15,070

Right.

:

01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,130

So I guess all this to say and to bring it

back to a truthful, grounded perspective.

:

01:03:20,670 --> 01:03:21,360

Absolutely.

:

01:03:21,450 --> 01:03:21,660

Girl.

:

01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:22,350

Good healing.

:

01:03:22,770 --> 01:03:27,720

'cause yeah, that, that was awkward

because it wasn't about him.

:

01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:29,150

It was, and it, wasn't.

:

01:03:29,150 --> 01:03:32,180

And I hope I, it wasn't, I think he's

mature enough to watch it back and be

:

01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:33,770

like, okay, I can see what happened.

:

01:03:33,770 --> 01:03:35,870

And hopefully they have

a conversation about it.

:

01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,720

But yeah, I think that.

:

01:03:41,030 --> 01:03:45,950

Reality TV always exposes people

in a way that they never thought.

:

01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:46,610

Never.

:

01:03:47,030 --> 01:03:51,290

And so I think that it's, for

some people it's really good.

:

01:03:51,590 --> 01:03:54,980

I think this is gonna be really good

for her, for her to see everything.

:

01:03:55,220 --> 01:03:55,370

Yeah.

:

01:03:55,370 --> 01:03:59,540

Because when people are living their

lives, they don't, they don't have the

:

01:03:59,540 --> 01:04:01,280

opportunity to bring it all together.

:

01:04:02,210 --> 01:04:06,830

This is the reason why, like, you

know, I like to write down my thoughts.

:

01:04:06,830 --> 01:04:07,525

It helps me.

:

01:04:08,825 --> 01:04:12,785

Journal journaling does help me like it

does stay accountable to my feelings.

:

01:04:13,835 --> 01:04:13,905

It does.

:

01:04:13,905 --> 01:04:17,045

And so I think that this is, like,

this is a video journal, right?

:

01:04:17,075 --> 01:04:21,635

Um, and it goes, I think that, you

know, what we're talking about does

:

01:04:21,635 --> 01:04:28,295

go to your earlier point about someone

calling daily to the carpet to talk

:

01:04:28,295 --> 01:04:30,185

about what it is that she's doing.

:

01:04:30,515 --> 01:04:37,205

I think that if we are in a group

dynamic and we are exchanging energy

:

01:04:37,505 --> 01:04:41,615

in order to make sure that the

energy stays positive, we do have an

:

01:04:41,615 --> 01:04:47,975

accountability, you know, to each other

in that group and responsibility to

:

01:04:47,975 --> 01:04:50,015

make sure that we keep the energy clean.

:

01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:52,415

And that does mean

having to say something.

:

01:04:52,745 --> 01:04:55,445

And if you're going to be part

of the group, there needs to be

:

01:04:55,445 --> 01:04:58,685

an understanding that you have to

abide by the social contract, right?

:

01:04:58,685 --> 01:05:00,605

That it's going to be Right.

:

01:05:00,725 --> 01:05:03,785

Clean and, yeah.

:

01:05:03,785 --> 01:05:06,215

I think that, let's see

what ends up happening.

:

01:05:06,650 --> 01:05:11,750

During the course of the season, I, you

know, I was, I was actually wondering

:

01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,160

whether or not you think that she's going

to be able to stay, or whether or not

:

01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:20,390

she's going to be so uncomfortable that

she wants to leave and not come back to

:

01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:27,620

the house because she may not be ready

to abide by the cool vibes, fun vibes,

:

01:05:27,620 --> 01:05:32,875

social contract of the house, and that

if, and she basically was gonna, was so

:

01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,010

upset about the conversation that she and

Ben had, that she started crying after he,

:

01:05:37,279 --> 01:05:41,210

he left the room, she started crying, and

then she started, she was upset because

:

01:05:41,210 --> 01:05:46,760

she felt like he was yelling at her,

which I was like, I don't know, maybe

:

01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,260

yelling is different for other people.

:

01:05:48,260 --> 01:05:48,710

Different.

:

01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:49,520

Maybe it was louder.

:

01:05:50,060 --> 01:05:50,090

Okay.

:

01:05:50,090 --> 01:05:50,660

In the, in the room.

:

01:05:51,470 --> 01:05:51,860

Right.

:

01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,185

Maybe you see, and that's, that's tough

because like, you know, perspective

:

01:05:56,185 --> 01:05:57,110

and that's part of the healing.

:

01:05:57,110 --> 01:05:57,980

Like that's your Right.

:

01:05:57,980 --> 01:05:58,880

That's the perception.

:

01:05:58,945 --> 01:05:59,185

Yeah.

:

01:05:59,765 --> 01:06:04,010

And so you see someone who is being

serious with you and talking straight to

:

01:06:04,010 --> 01:06:06,050

you and about something that you've done.

:

01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:06,830

Yeah.

:

01:06:06,830 --> 01:06:11,930

You, it's like you're replaying it as

if it was from, and I always like, it's

:

01:06:11,930 --> 01:06:16,490

also arrested development where like,

where did, where did you, where did you

:

01:06:16,490 --> 01:06:19,490

stop developing at, at, at what point?

:

01:06:19,550 --> 01:06:21,950

And you have to really

go back to that place.

:

01:06:22,279 --> 01:06:22,880

Yes.

:

01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:26,120

In order to build and talk to

that younger self in order to

:

01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,290

really bring yourself along.

:

01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,904

I will say that, um, yeah, definitely.

:

01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,290

So like when I say she's acting almost

like a teenager about this whole crush

:

01:06:33,290 --> 01:06:38,300

thing, it's because maybe way back in

the day, in her teenage years, this

:

01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:40,225

is how she was, maybe she wasn't sure.

:

01:06:40,445 --> 01:06:42,380

Wasn't sure of herself wasn't.

:

01:06:43,130 --> 01:06:44,900

But um, yeah.

:

01:06:45,515 --> 01:06:48,605

I'll just say, and unfortunately, a lot

of these things do end up playing out

:

01:06:48,605 --> 01:06:50,225

because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

:

01:06:50,225 --> 01:06:52,715

Like the way that our lives go.

:

01:06:52,895 --> 01:06:57,154

It, I mean, like we have, if we have a

script in our head, like our world has

:

01:06:57,154 --> 01:06:58,700

to conform to what it is that we believe.

:

01:06:58,700 --> 01:06:58,980

Exactly.

:

01:06:59,404 --> 01:07:00,365

We make our own reality.

:

01:07:00,365 --> 01:07:02,060

It's true to you at least.

:

01:07:02,890 --> 01:07:03,580

Yeah, absolutely.

:

01:07:03,904 --> 01:07:07,895

And so I know that, so Carl

wasn't here this episode, but Wes

:

01:07:07,895 --> 01:07:09,485

and Ciara and Jesse were here.

:

01:07:10,805 --> 01:07:17,275

Jesse basically upset

and objectified Ciara.

:

01:07:17,465 --> 01:07:21,100

And him and Ciara, they ended

on last episode on a note of

:

01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:22,865

talking through that, that issue.

:

01:07:22,865 --> 01:07:22,955

Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:23,620 --> 01:07:27,185

They, she acknowledged that she needs to,

you know, set up some more boundaries.

:

01:07:27,185 --> 01:07:27,245

Yeah.

:

01:07:27,545 --> 01:07:32,495

And he acknowledged that he didn't intend

to make her, like, make her so upset.

:

01:07:32,825 --> 01:07:37,295

I do think, I think Jesse is,

uh, has like a maturity issue in

:

01:07:37,295 --> 01:07:39,154

that, or he has like a issue with.

:

01:07:40,445 --> 01:07:42,605

Breaking, like taking down his wall.

:

01:07:42,605 --> 01:07:47,045

Because I do truly think that Jesse would

want to be with her long-term in a serious

:

01:07:47,045 --> 01:07:48,795

relationship and he's just not saying it.

:

01:07:48,795 --> 01:07:48,805

Right.

:

01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:49,850

Right.

:

01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:50,370

Interesting.

:

01:07:50,370 --> 01:07:51,275

He's like laughing it off.

:

01:07:51,275 --> 01:07:52,295

He's joking it off.

:

01:07:52,325 --> 01:07:54,545

I don't believe it was a

joke that he would kiss her.

:

01:07:54,545 --> 01:07:54,875

I would.

:

01:07:54,935 --> 01:07:58,385

I, 'cause especially the way he

was after Lexi, man, that chick

:

01:07:58,385 --> 01:08:00,335

walked in and he was like, boop.

:

01:08:00,995 --> 01:08:01,745

Yeah, boop.

:

01:08:01,835 --> 01:08:02,675

That's my girl.

:

01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:03,330

He, he does touch her.

:

01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:04,265

He knows what he wants.

:

01:08:04,265 --> 01:08:06,545

Yeah, he does know what he wants.

:

01:08:06,815 --> 01:08:13,145

But I think that he is, he was

testing the waters with Wes.

:

01:08:13,145 --> 01:08:13,355

Yes.

:

01:08:13,355 --> 01:08:15,485

To see whether or not she

would, it would be okay.

:

01:08:15,485 --> 01:08:16,564

Be down, right?

:

01:08:17,075 --> 01:08:17,404

Yeah.

:

01:08:17,975 --> 01:08:23,885

Honestly, like you can only, Jesse can

only go as far as Wes is comfortable.

:

01:08:24,274 --> 01:08:24,484

Right.

:

01:08:24,484 --> 01:08:26,045

And that's all that this is.

:

01:08:26,194 --> 01:08:26,345

Right.

:

01:08:26,345 --> 01:08:30,604

So Jesse has been really

trying to put the feelers out.

:

01:08:30,845 --> 01:08:31,115

Right.

:

01:08:31,175 --> 01:08:32,375

Wes is not there yet.

:

01:08:32,524 --> 01:08:36,725

Wes may or may not be

still interested in Sarah.

:

01:08:37,265 --> 01:08:37,715

Yes.

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01:08:37,715 --> 01:08:37,835

And.

:

01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:44,809

Well, I mean, and so then like,

there's a conundrum because Right.

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01:08:45,109 --> 01:08:50,840

So are we that are, are you, are

we okay if it, so, so the episode

:

01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,729

ended with Wes, uh, admitting that he

still, that he has regrets, that he

:

01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:58,160

essentially still really likes her.

:

01:08:58,250 --> 01:09:04,100

Um, that, so he sat on top of

her at like 4:00 AM They all came

:

01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,630

back, all having a good time.

:

01:09:05,779 --> 01:09:10,100

He sits on top of her and he starts

talking to her and she goes, oh,

:

01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,140

I know that he's, he likes me.

:

01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:14,059

He's in love with me

because that's what he does.

:

01:09:14,059 --> 01:09:18,830

Even like last year or two years ago when

he was, had a, when were dating, when he

:

01:09:18,830 --> 01:09:20,690

has a crush on someone, he sits on them.

:

01:09:21,515 --> 01:09:21,805

Just,

:

01:09:25,365 --> 01:09:32,720

I dunno, you know, I, I think

that Wes is more interested.

:

01:09:33,604 --> 01:09:36,095

Being beat to the punch by Jesse.

:

01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:36,290

Mm.

:

01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,729

I don't think that Wes

actually likes Ciara like that.

:

01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:41,250

Wow.

:

01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:45,050

But for him to have let Ciara go.

:

01:09:45,350 --> 01:09:45,680

Mm.

:

01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:51,109

Because we all saw, we know what Ciara

is about, what she brings to the table.

:

01:09:51,318 --> 01:09:51,410

Right.

:

01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:52,940

How cool she is.

:

01:09:53,210 --> 01:09:57,440

And you know, down to earth she is

like, she's just, she's a cool chick.

:

01:09:57,530 --> 01:09:57,950

Right.

:

01:09:58,130 --> 01:10:02,210

And so for Wes to have done everything

that he did, thinking that there

:

01:10:02,210 --> 01:10:05,930

was someone else out there, someone

better out there, the fact that he

:

01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:08,030

has dms would be flooded with people.

:

01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:08,510

Right.

:

01:10:08,570 --> 01:10:14,720

This is the issue that I see with dating

apps because that, you know, there's a

:

01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:20,510

fallacy that has really blinded people

right into thinking that whatever it

:

01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:25,400

is that is really amazing in front

of you now is not going to compare

:

01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,309

what it is that is unknown tomorrow.

:

01:10:28,315 --> 01:10:28,465

Right.

:

01:10:29,509 --> 01:10:31,790

And who it is that can

be the next right swipe.

:

01:10:32,389 --> 01:10:35,240

And the reality is that

Wes has been single.

:

01:10:35,299 --> 01:10:37,580

He has been single in dating.

:

01:10:37,735 --> 01:10:38,085

Right.

:

01:10:38,210 --> 01:10:41,000

And so really he let someone go.

:

01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:46,070

He threw Sarah back into the, into like

the ocean, fished back into the ocean.

:

01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:56,360

And his boy, Jesse has also done his own

dating and all of that in the market.

:

01:10:56,870 --> 01:11:00,200

And you know, he hasn't soiled his hands.

:

01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,580

Like he took it easy.

:

01:11:01,610 --> 01:11:03,170

He did move slow.

:

01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:07,130

I mean, granted, who knows what

would've happened if he was able

:

01:11:07,130 --> 01:11:12,559

to get to the house before we did

two seasons ago in order to build a

:

01:11:12,559 --> 01:11:15,889

relationship with Ciara, who knows,

with whatever it is that he's got going

:

01:11:15,889 --> 01:11:17,809

on, maybe he would've messed it up too.

:

01:11:18,139 --> 01:11:21,620

So unfortunately Jesse does

have the benefit of more time.

:

01:11:21,889 --> 01:11:22,009

Mm-hmm.

:

01:11:22,009 --> 01:11:28,280

He does have the benefit of, you know,

not being there, not showing, you know.

:

01:11:28,670 --> 01:11:30,350

His bad self.

:

01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,840

And, and Wes doesn't have that.

:

01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,020

And so Wes is going to

have to make peace mm-hmm.

:

01:11:36,260 --> 01:11:41,510

With the fact that he let go of a good

girl and, and maybe this is the one

:

01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:45,650

who got, who got away and he's going to

have to like cultivate a different taste

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01:11:45,650 --> 01:11:48,800

for a new girl who should be his wife.

:

01:11:49,130 --> 01:11:49,340

Right.

:

01:11:49,340 --> 01:11:50,900

And he should just let Ciara go.

:

01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:51,590

Yeah.

:

01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:53,390

And I hate to say it,

but that's what happens.

:

01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:54,470

You, you've now changed.

:

01:11:54,559 --> 01:12:01,340

Like I've, I was, I was believing in

the, he's growing up and realizing

:

01:12:01,340 --> 01:12:04,130

what's going on, but mm-hmm.

:

01:12:04,460 --> 01:12:09,455

Um, because, but I, she had actually

like, amazing line and he goes mm-hmm.

:

01:12:09,540 --> 01:12:13,220

Because he goes, um, I don't know

when to talk to you, like before

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01:12:13,220 --> 01:12:16,640

filming or like, I don't know

what it is that I can talk to you.

:

01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,309

And he, she goes, oh, 'cause

I designed it that way.

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01:12:23,075 --> 01:12:25,070

And that's, I love it.

:

01:12:25,490 --> 01:12:27,620

I was like, yes, I love it, queen.

:

01:12:27,650 --> 01:12:34,370

That is a woman who knows how to assert

her worth with someone who decided that

:

01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:39,470

they didn't, that they weren't going

to abide by the currency exchange.

:

01:12:39,710 --> 01:12:42,050

Sorry, high value woman.

:

01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,790

You didn't see it.

:

01:12:43,820 --> 01:12:47,345

You did, you lost your, you, you

had a chance and you met, had a

:

01:12:47,345 --> 01:12:48,440

chance, and you fumbled the bag.

:

01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,130

Yeah.

:

01:12:49,130 --> 01:12:50,630

And now you want to talk to me.

:

01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:55,820

And so, so to your point, and

it's not just fumbling the bag,

:

01:12:56,180 --> 01:12:58,100

it's like, it's worse than that.

:

01:12:58,220 --> 01:12:58,490

Yeah.

:

01:12:58,490 --> 01:13:04,430

He, he had an interview talking about

how he was not interested in her anymore.

:

01:13:04,730 --> 01:13:06,320

I mean, come on.

:

01:13:06,740 --> 01:13:09,140

So, like, he just doesn't wanna lose.

:

01:13:09,170 --> 01:13:11,000

That's what this boils down to, to me.

:

01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,410

So you think that's what's that's about?

:

01:13:12,620 --> 01:13:12,860

Okay.

:

01:13:13,550 --> 01:13:14,030

I can see that.

:

01:13:14,030 --> 01:13:18,380

I mean, like, I can see that at

least if he had just left the door

:

01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:21,200

open, because like, people like

break up and get back together.

:

01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,410

But the way that he, the

way that he played her.

:

01:13:25,505 --> 01:13:29,195

And then like, basically like, I

don't know, this interview, just,

:

01:13:29,255 --> 01:13:31,205

it just seems like it was an offed.

:

01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,960

I, I hate to say this to you, but I

I actually never read that interview.

:

01:13:35,885 --> 01:13:37,235

I didn't read the interview either.

:

01:13:37,295 --> 01:13:37,415

Okay.

:

01:13:37,745 --> 01:13:41,075

And I don't want to read the

interview because I think that

:

01:13:41,075 --> 01:13:43,115

it is just so disrespectful.

:

01:13:43,295 --> 01:13:45,635

I'm not going to support a man's

:

01:13:48,995 --> 01:13:54,215

putting nails in his own

coffin of opportunity.

:

01:13:54,220 --> 01:13:54,410

Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:54,495 --> 01:14:02,135

Because like, it's, it's okay to be,

to be unsure and to like be sure later.

:

01:14:02,135 --> 01:14:02,225

Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:02,735 --> 01:14:09,275

But when you are going to dead any

opportunity because like, that's just,

:

01:14:09,965 --> 01:14:11,855

it's like, it's like cutting off an arm.

:

01:14:11,855 --> 01:14:16,865

You can't like put it back

on like, you, you cut it off.

:

01:14:17,420 --> 01:14:20,330

This is the reason why we have

to be careful with our words.

:

01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:22,250

Like, you just can't take everything back.

:

01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,470

While you were, I was thinking too about

your, your, when you talk about Jesse

:

01:14:27,470 --> 01:14:34,040

and his di in that dynamic, um, and, you

know, my favorite, you know, dating coach,

:

01:14:34,099 --> 01:14:36,500

um, that's my, my podcast dating coach.

:

01:14:36,505 --> 01:14:39,470

You know, he does say that like mm-hmm.

:

01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:42,800

You know, when, when he's talk,

uh, this, this podcaster, he talks

:

01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,820

a bit about black women dating,

not just black men, but Sure.

:

01:14:47,330 --> 01:14:47,960

The rainbow.

:

01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:48,920

And Yeah.

:

01:14:48,980 --> 01:14:53,540

A lot of times we, we don't really

know someone likes us, um, because

:

01:14:53,540 --> 01:14:57,710

it doesn't, it's, you know, in our

culture, usually men approach or,

:

01:14:57,769 --> 01:15:01,370

you know, there's like a dynamic

that happens and it's much clearer.

:

01:15:01,790 --> 01:15:05,990

That, and, and, and so we don't know

if someone's interested, especially

:

01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:09,440

because the perception of black women

is that we only wanna date black men.

:

01:15:09,890 --> 01:15:10,160

Sure.

:

01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,930

And so he's like, these

are some telltale signs.

:

01:15:15,650 --> 01:15:16,070

Right.

:

01:15:16,624 --> 01:15:20,405

His belt buckles pointed to you,

his toes are pointed towards you.

:

01:15:21,065 --> 01:15:21,334

Right.

:

01:15:21,514 --> 01:15:23,224

They will, he will become your friend.

:

01:15:23,224 --> 01:15:25,594

And he will be your friend

for as long as it takes.

:

01:15:26,315 --> 01:15:28,054

Yes, he is.

:

01:15:28,834 --> 01:15:30,245

Yes he does.

:

01:15:30,245 --> 01:15:31,294

He ain't gonna push it.

:

01:15:31,294 --> 01:15:34,714

He's gonna be your friend

though, for as long it is.

:

01:15:35,075 --> 01:15:35,315

Right.

:

01:15:35,584 --> 01:15:39,394

You know, and so when you just talked

about Jesse, I was like, damn, like

:

01:15:39,424 --> 01:15:41,735

that actually makes a lot of sense that

he was just like, you know what, I'm

:

01:15:41,735 --> 01:15:46,355

gonna go back to being her friend and

we will see later, you know, maybe they

:

01:15:46,355 --> 01:15:51,485

have a conversation after filming goes

down and they might have a conversation.

:

01:15:51,485 --> 01:15:51,964

You know?

:

01:15:52,445 --> 01:15:55,955

Uh, I don't know that to be a true, so

I'm not gonna say that for sure, but I

:

01:15:55,955 --> 01:16:02,884

would say that, um, it, it kind of what

Jesse's doing kind of tracks to what Sure.

:

01:16:02,945 --> 01:16:07,415

Someone who's interested, truly

interested, truly interested will do.

:

01:16:07,775 --> 01:16:07,865

Yeah.

:

01:16:07,865 --> 01:16:10,294

With Wes, he's putting in work right now.

:

01:16:10,955 --> 01:16:11,224

Yeah.

:

01:16:11,525 --> 01:16:13,174

And, and he, and he'll wait.

:

01:16:13,235 --> 01:16:15,155

And if it means that he has to.

:

01:16:15,785 --> 01:16:17,825

Really break bro code.

:

01:16:17,825 --> 01:16:21,755

Like, I mean, like don't

miss your wife right.

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01:16:21,755 --> 01:16:23,045

Or your friend.

:

01:16:23,165 --> 01:16:23,465

No.

:

01:16:23,555 --> 01:16:25,415

Like, sorry.

:

01:16:26,285 --> 01:16:31,265

I do, what I see with Wes is that

:

01:16:33,934 --> 01:16:40,085

I kind of think it's hilarious that

he, his day is either good or bad

:

01:16:40,085 --> 01:16:43,655

based on Ciara's interaction with him.

:

01:16:44,690 --> 01:16:45,040

Right?

:

01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:45,050

Right.

:

01:16:45,455 --> 01:16:48,275

I gotta do think that that's hilarious.

:

01:16:48,425 --> 01:16:52,475

And someone said online

that is, is it messed up?

:

01:16:52,475 --> 01:16:53,255

Did I like Wes?

:

01:16:53,255 --> 01:16:56,405

Because Ciara likes him again,

like, like is okay with him again.

:

01:16:56,405 --> 01:16:58,235

And I was like, I kind of feel that way.

:

01:16:58,235 --> 01:17:00,545

I feel like if Ciara's cool then okay.

:

01:17:00,605 --> 01:17:06,215

But I feel like what you just said

was just, it's really, really a, a,

:

01:17:06,365 --> 01:17:10,775

a different perspective that I do

think that there's, there might be

:

01:17:10,775 --> 01:17:14,135

this level of competition, there's,

there might be this level of.

:

01:17:15,725 --> 01:17:17,975

Because even the Aussie mm-hmm.

:

01:17:18,215 --> 01:17:21,635

Ben was like, she's

gorgeous, she's beautiful.

:

01:17:21,695 --> 01:17:22,085

She is.

:

01:17:22,115 --> 01:17:25,625

You know, and they, they were, they

were having a nice conversation.

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01:17:26,105 --> 01:17:26,195

Mm-hmm.

:

01:17:26,885 --> 01:17:32,285

And so, to some degree, it's

like being the peacock, you know,

:

01:17:32,285 --> 01:17:35,770

being the head of the roost, you

know, being the one that mm-hmm.

:

01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:40,045

I'm the only one that really, that

she was really into, and I can Yeah.

:

01:17:40,125 --> 01:17:42,585

Kind of plug and play back again.

:

01:17:42,915 --> 01:17:48,540

So, but I, I haven't wanted them

to rekindle anything, but mm-hmm.

:

01:17:48,670 --> 01:17:52,965

It would be nice to see if they could

be friends, but I don't, I don't want

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01:17:53,505 --> 01:17:58,455

her to go back to with him unless

he is legitimate and very unserious.

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01:17:58,485 --> 01:17:59,085

And

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01:18:01,815 --> 01:18:03,225

because you referred her again.

:

01:18:04,110 --> 01:18:04,670

I, yeah.

:

01:18:05,145 --> 01:18:08,865

I mean, and I just, and, and

quite frankly, I just don't think.

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01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:16,470

That she should go back to him even,

even if he were to act right, because

:

01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:22,230

for whatever reason that he decided that

he was going to let her go the first

:

01:18:22,230 --> 01:18:31,740

time, I don't see how he could not do

it again once he, you know, once it is

:

01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:35,430

that he's won and taken everybody out.

:

01:18:36,210 --> 01:18:38,130

I just think that for her

:

01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:45,720

it's probably best, like, again, like

co you know, couples break up, they get

:

01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:54,130

back together, but like the trashing and

like the, the self-esteem hit for Ciara

:

01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:59,550

witnessing the breakup because it, it,

it's okay to like, just take some space.

:

01:19:00,660 --> 01:19:05,100

Some couples that are together

today have done that, but Right.

:

01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:06,059

I know.

:

01:19:07,095 --> 01:19:12,855

I have multiple examples of couples

that took a, a run at it, broke up,

:

01:19:13,035 --> 01:19:18,045

spent some time away, then they found

each other again and things were right.

:

01:19:18,915 --> 01:19:19,155

Yeah.

:

01:19:19,545 --> 01:19:22,035

Um, because sometimes it's

timing, but like when you talk

:

01:19:22,035 --> 01:19:27,075

about the lack of respect, when

you lose that in a relationship,

:

01:19:27,195 --> 01:19:29,955

it's, it's, it's hard to recover.

:

01:19:30,345 --> 01:19:33,405

Um, most especially like when it comes

to a long-term relationship like that.

:

01:19:33,405 --> 01:19:35,865

So, um, we'll, we'll see.

:

01:19:35,865 --> 01:19:37,934

We'll keep watching to see

what happens this season.

:

01:19:39,105 --> 01:19:42,915

But I, the thing is that we did see

her, but it was a group of four.

:

01:19:44,570 --> 01:19:48,045

She was with, you know, they, her and

Wes were at the Super Bowl, but it was

:

01:19:48,045 --> 01:19:53,565

a group of him and he, and it was hi

her and there was like two other people

:

01:19:53,565 --> 01:19:58,005

in the photo, but Ciara's like all

over the place with her brand stuff.

:

01:19:58,005 --> 01:20:02,684

So she's constantly on that

Instagram on a commercial.

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01:20:03,585 --> 01:20:06,915

Um, and she actually was on

Carol, uh, Carl's podcast.

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01:20:06,915 --> 01:20:10,305

That's why there's also some, some

thoughts that they might be back

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together because Carl did not ask her

about her relationship status at all.

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Okay.

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And some people are saying that maybe

it's be, and they talked a lot, apparently

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about Carl's relationship status.

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But all I have say is that

we, we are ride or die.

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Stand here, Ciara.

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This is a stand Ciara account.

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We love Ciara and we only want Ciara.

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01:20:33,165 --> 01:20:38,309

And I'm like also love,

like that whole trio H Me.

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01:20:42,330 --> 01:20:42,960

Yes.

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01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:43,470

We love it.

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01:20:43,530 --> 01:20:44,220

We love to see it.

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And, and there's only good and,

um, positivity and lightness

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that comes out of that.

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01:20:48,990 --> 01:20:50,580

So that's what I think that you're seeing.

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I love it.

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01:20:51,815 --> 01:20:53,020

And I love her.

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I love, I love it all.

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Um, I do, I would love to hear though,

I, I just wish that Ciara could

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like, FaceTime Paige or something.

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So just,

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Paige would've gotten all the,

everybody's edges together.

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01:21:08,830 --> 01:21:11,770

She would've walked in and edges Okay.

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01:21:11,890 --> 01:21:14,290

Because she does not, she did

not play about her bestie.

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, , Ciara.

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Yeah.

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01:21:16,366 --> 01:21:17,915

So amazing.

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01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:19,450

He'll be fine.

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01:21:19,630 --> 01:21:24,970

So hopefully our, our talk is, was

grounded, you know, and some verifiable

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01:21:24,970 --> 01:21:29,050

facts and some ver and some, some

truths and some experiences that we've

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lived through and hopefully the crash

out that anybody listening might be

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01:21:35,260 --> 01:21:39,370

experiencing about any of these topics,

you kind of like calm down a little

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01:21:39,370 --> 01:21:42,250

bit, you know, that life happens and

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01:21:44,410 --> 01:21:47,920

we just don't want to perpetuate

this chaos on our interwebs.

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01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:48,130

Yeah.

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So thank you so much Vida, for

showing up and giving all that.

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You've got so much wisdom and I

can't wait to explore it with you.

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, Absolutely.

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01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:58,610

Happy to share.

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01:21:59,285 --> 01:22:00,035

I love it.

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, So I'll see, we'll see you next

time, weekly event, , and make

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sure that you like share and

tell a friend to tell a friend.

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01:22:08,795 --> 01:22:11,945

And we'll see you back

next week at the end.

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Vida, I usually have to, to just

give a shout out to my sports teams.

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01:22:16,355 --> 01:22:20,765

So I don't know who your teams

are, but I gotta go as they go.

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01:22:20,765 --> 01:22:22,895

Birds Go, Phillies go.

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01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:25,170

The world has been really chaotic.

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01:22:25,170 --> 01:22:29,760

I'm happy to just have a moment

of reflection here and, you know,

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01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,490

just holding the mantle for that,

that space that we need to have to

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01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:41,309

just, be different and turn away

from the chaos is absolutely needed.

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01:22:41,309 --> 01:22:45,009

So I'm happy for the time and

I'm happy for our listeners who

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01:22:45,009 --> 01:22:46,929

are taking this time with us.

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01:22:47,019 --> 01:22:47,440

Yeah.

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01:22:47,530 --> 01:22:49,990

So let's all woosah, let's all breathe in.

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01:22:50,770 --> 01:22:51,580

Breathe out.

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01:22:53,835 --> 01:22:54,184

Wooah.

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01:22:54,325 --> 01:22:55,585

Yes, Wooah.

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01:22:55,885 --> 01:22:56,290

And let's go.

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01:22:58,210 --> 01:22:58,930

Exactly.

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01:23:00,370 --> 01:23:00,530

Good night.

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01:23:00,530 --> 01:23:03,790

And have a great, great, great

week and we'll see you next week.

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01:23:04,570 --> 01:23:05,710

Yes, see you next week.

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01:23:06,190 --> 01:23:06,460

All right.

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Bye.

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01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:08,860

Bye.

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